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Mike D.
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Hello all,

 

I hope this post finds you well. Ive been away from here for a while. Its been a crazy year. Between college (now finished), family, work, and little leagueIve been swamped. Little league is finally done, as is college. And losing Mom to cancer in June didnt help any. It really took the wind out of my sails. It still hasnt fully set in. *sighs*

 

But, I believe sharing some good news is warranted. I learned (in an email from Harry Weinger) early this year that there were attempts to have Live In Chicago issued by a third party label. Well, I offered the suggestion to Iconoclassic Records.

http://www.iconoclassicrecords.com/

 They are a reissue label that releases rare and out of print albums on cd. And they do a thorough job. They use the complete artwork, have great sound quality,  have detailed liner notes (with comments from band members), and even bonus tracks sometimes. So, I sent them an email to compliment them on their reissues of old Guess Who albums. And I suggested a possible reissue (well, issue since it never came out at all) of Live in Chicago. And heres the response I received today:

 

Hi Mike. Thanks for the kind words. We have a developing relationship with Universal and will keep the Rare Earth suggestion in mind.  We have several initial Universal releases that we would have to get to first but we will eventually speak with Harry Weinger regarding the Rare Earth title you suggest.

 

I believe this will eventually happen. Im excited that the idea has been acknowledged and could potentially become a reality. Ive not given up on trying to get this to become a reality...for everyone whom comes here. Please keep your fingers crossed.

 

Mike



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Stuart -- Chicago
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Fingers crossed Mike.  So sorry to hear about you Mom. 

Stuart



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Mike D.
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Hi Stuart,

Hope you are doing well. Thank you for the kind words. It's been rough, but I am doing ok.

Fingers are crossed but I have a positive feeling this will happen. Both sides have talked about the idea...I feel it's not a case of "if" but "when".   



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M.J. Calhoun
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Doubt they would release "Live in Chicago" when one of the greatest live albums of all-time is still out of print - In Concert.



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MIke D.
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M.J. Calhoun wrote:

Doubt they would release "Live in Chicago" when one of the greatest live albums of all-time is still out of print - In Concert.


 Thank you for the doubting. It only strengthens my resolve. Tell me something can't be done, and I'll try my hardest just to show you (or anyone else)that it actually can smile



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UK Dave
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Also MJ, you never know, "Live In Chicago" could well be BETTER than "In concert"? REIC is my all time fave album so I don't say this lightly. However, having heard Get Ready, it's a shorter version but it's up there with previous versions. Ray's solo, Pete's incredible drumming, Eddie's percussion, Mark's piano and organ, Gil's trademark sax...the track sounds as solid as ever. No John Persh sadly, but Mike Urso  slotted in perfectly. It's an incredible performance and I hope one day that we get to hear the rest of the concert. 

Anything we can do to push things along Mike?



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AL FROM CANADA
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Mike

Way to go,here's hopin'.



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Mike D.
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UK Dave wrote:

Also MJ, you never know, "Live In Chicago" could well be BETTER than "In concert"? REIC is my all time fave album so I don't say this lightly. However, having heard Get Ready, it's a shorter version but it's up there with previous versions. Ray's solo, Pete's incredible drumming, Eddie's percussion, Mark's piano and organ, Gil's trademark sax...the track sounds as solid as ever. No John Persh sadly, but Mike Urso  slotted in perfectly. It's an incredible performance and I hope one day that we get to hear the rest of the concert. 

Anything we can do to push things along Mike?


Well put Dave. Live In Chicago is likely the equal of In Concert...the long lost companion! How to help? Keep the fingers crossed and pray :)

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LIVE IN CHICAGO IS IN THE TOILET..FLUSH..NEVER WILL BE HEARD



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Anonymous
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To the Anonymos poster, assuming you are quite familiar with inside of a toilet bowl, I was quite amazed you would leave such a message. I tell you what, come on out to Chicago I can recommend a tour guide for yous.



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To the Anonymos poster, assuming you are quite familiar with inside of a toilet bowl, I was quite amazed you would leave such a message. I tell you what, come on out to Chicago I can recommend a tour guide for yous.


 BLAST!



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Mike D.
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I'm not giving up :)

When someone tells me something is not possible, that serves to strengthen my resolve. Tell me something can't be done, and I'll prove to you that if can be done.



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Greg
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 I think Live in Chicago was never released do to the up coming break up in '74 and court battles.



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I guess only BARNEY ALES really knows.



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Peter Rivera
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I have a casette of the opening of the Chicago show and I'm pretty sure that the reason it was not released is because in my opinion it was not a very good recording or performance overall. We recorded a lot back in those days and the remotes didn't come out as well as expected. I only have Get Ready so I can't reference the rest of the show but I'm sure if Get Ready is any indication of the quality, it wouldn't make for a good release.... sorry.... my opinion.... Peter



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Greg
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Hello Peter,Live in Chicago had new music By Rare Earth Funky Black Man and Chained,I talk with Eddie several years later he said we only played these new songs ONCE



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Those songs may well have been played but the Live In Chicago album consisted of the following tracks.

 


hey big brother.....born to wander.....were gonna have a good time.....big john is my name.....(I know) im losing you.....I just want to celebrate.....get ready



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Greg
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I was there



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Mike D.
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Peter Rivera wrote:

I have a casette of the opening of the Chicago show and I'm pretty sure that the reason it was not released is because in my opinion it was not a very good recording or performance overall. We recorded a lot back in those days and the remotes didn't come out as well as expected. I only have Get Ready so I can't reference the rest of the show but I'm sure if Get Ready is any indication of the quality, it wouldn't make for a good release.... sorry.... my opinion.... Peter


I can respect that opinion. :) 

That's the same tape you were gracious to share a few years ago. That is an awesome performance, by the way. When you say "quality", are you refering to a) performance, b) recording/mixing quality, or c) the sound of that cassette? 

I ask because that was a very old cassette and has some tape warble, just due to the age of that casssette. And that was cool, because the thrill of hearing something "unreleased" far outweighed any flaws from the source tape. No griping from me.

I'm willing to bet that the master tapes sound pristine. From what I understand/have been told, etc...Russ Terrana recorded that Chicago concert (Arie Crown Thatre inside of McCormick Place) and mixed the album.  A few test pressnigs were made, and the album was ready to go. But it got shalved before the horse could get out of the gate.

I'm still pushing for it. If it were up to me, this would already be available. The same goes for the 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival set. That was recorded too. Sony Music has the tapes from that Festival. That festival was filmed too, and the negatives are sitting in a warehouse somewhere. 



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UK Dave
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And it ain't bringing in any money while it's sat on a shelf!!!

 



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Peter Rivera
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WHAT MONEY ?????



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UK Dave
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Well yes, that's a good point. Presumably Live in Chicago would be put out by a smaller third party company and you can bet none of the proceeds would find their way into the artists or writers pockets! One reason why I didn't buy those 2 on 1 Rare Earth CDs. I would find it hard to resist buying Live in Chicago though.



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RICH
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If PETER is right..................................we should concentrate on the WILSON sessions.FUNKY BLACK MALE gettin a lot of hits on utube?1 of their very best.



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Mike D.
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RICH wrote:

If PETER is right..................................we should concentrate on the WILSON sessions.FUNKY BLACK MALE gettin a lot of hits on utube?1 of their very best.


I must respectfully disagree on this. I believe the completed live album sounds just fine. And hopefully we'll get to hear the holy grail. Ralph Terrana has commented on the so-called myth about the album being shelved due to poor quality. He's stated that Russ Terrana recorded the Chicago date, and anyone who knows their Motown is aware of Russ' impeccable skills and track record. The album was mixed and completed. If the quality of the multitrack tapes was poor, why would someone go to the trouble of mixing down the album? I firmly believe the album was shelved due to the behind-the scenes happenings within the band and/or by the label.

 I'd much prefer to hear "Live In Chicago" before the 1974 Frank Wilson sessions. Live In Chicago was completed. The bulk of the Wilson sessions were not completed.



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Ralph Terrana
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The next time I speak with Harry Balk I'll ask if he can shed some insight on this.



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Mike D.
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Ralph Terrana wrote:

The next time I speak with Harry Balk I'll ask if he can shed some insight on this.


 Wow! Thank you Ralph. Most appreciated.



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UK Dave
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Good post Mike. I wholeheartedly agree. Looking forward to any news update or insight that Ralph might be able to provide.

Happy New Year to Rare Earth fans everywhere.



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UK Dave
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Good post Mike. Fully agree. I look forward to any insight from Ralph. Happy New Year to all.



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I spoke with Harry today, and the news isn't good. He doesn't remember the Chicago sessions. I'm sure it was Harry that set that up. he is 87 now anbd I wonder if age has dimmed things for him. He remembers the Florida live session as a disaster.  Sorry, this is all I can come up with.



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Mike D.
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Ralph Terrana wrote:

I spoke with Harry today, and the news isn't good. He doesn't remember the Chicago sessions. I'm sure it was Harry that set that up. he is 87 now anbd I wonder if age has dimmed things for him. He remembers the Florida live session as a disaster.  Sorry, this is all I can come up with.


Thank you Ralph for taking the extra time out of your day. That means a lot. Most appreciated. 

Over time, I'll bet that age has dimmed his memory on some things. It happens to all of us, sooner or later. hmm

I do rememebr you saying that Russ recorded the Chicago date, and that he was ill-dressed on arrival in Chicago...coming from California to Chicago in the winter....brrr!

The Florida live session? I'm willing to bet Harry is referring to the Marine Satdium gig in Miami. At least one song from that made it to the "In Concert" album. 

I must say something to Peter:

Peter, I hope you didn't think I was questioning your opinion. Apologies if I came across that way. I believe in my heart that the show was recorded and turned out just fine. Call me Mr. Positive and Stubborn. THis stubborn Belgian guy doesn't take "no" for an answer. Well, not easily. I'm just passionate about Rare Earth and for getting the Live In Chicago album released. I want all fans to be able to hear it. 



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UK Dave
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We just want to hear (and buy) it. It can't be that bad otherwise it wouldn't have been given a release catalogue number.



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Mike D.
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UK Dave wrote:

We just want to hear (and buy) it. It can't be that bad otherwise it wouldn't have been given a release catalogue number.


 Dave, 

 

Send me an email...I lost yours. I've good news.



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[video=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tKk298FmVA8#]



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Buy the album and do not rely on YouTube.  

 



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