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Richard
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Peter

I have several Motown books that list the 1st HUB album  in the discography sections with a  catalogue number, what's the story on this please?. How close was it to becoming HUB  Cat. No. Motown M823.



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Peter Rivera
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Originally, the hub album project was going to be with Motown however, Barney Ales knew that he was going to leave the company. We were close and he sold us over to Capitol with Al Corey. Soon after we finished the first album, Al was going to leave Capitol so we hurried and finished the 2nd album before Al left. When Al left, the new guy told me to my face that he didn't care anything about Hub or Rare Earth and that he was going release the albums but there would be no $ spent on promo. That was it......nice huh?     Peter
I guess the mental giants at Motown didn't even know we were with Capitol....

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Mike
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Peter Rivera wrote:

Originally, the hub album project was going to be with Motown however, Barney Ales knew that he was going to leave the company. We were close and he sold us over to Capitol with Al Corey. Soon after we finished the first album, Al was going to leave Capitol so we hurried and finished the 2nd album before Al left. When Al left, the new guy told me to my face that he didn't care anything about Hub or Rare Earth and that he was going release the albums but there would be no $ spent on promo. That was it......nice huh?     Peter
I guess the mental giants at Motown didn't even know we were with Capitol....


That's crummy. hmm

Ya know, I've not heard those albums. I best check e-bay to find copies.



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UK Dave
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Peter

Those HUB albums are quality releases in my opinion. Did you ever promote the band with a tour? If so, who did you add to to the line up for concert appearances?

Mike

Please email me at dpw999@hotmail.com. I might be able to point you in the right direction.

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Peter Rivera
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We never went on a promo tour in the normal way. The 3 of us did a promotional tour by taking all the radio station people along with news people to the best French Resturants in about 20 of the top City's in the country. It was a lot of fun....We previewed the Album to each of these gatherings. It was all for naught.....  NO airplay......geez it was such good payola food.....  Peter

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MARK M AKA MDF
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I JUST BOUGHT A 45 THAT WAS ON THE FIRST HUB PROJECT CALLED "THINK ABOUT IT" OFF OF E BAY..... I BELIEVE I HAVE A "RARE" FIND....I DID NOT KNOW THAT SINGLES WERE MADE FROM THE HUB PROJECTS....confused
I GUESS I WILL FIND OUT....
FYI......MARK M biggrin

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Mike
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I was listening to these albums today and working on the vinyl transfers. Man, they sure sound smooth. The self-titled album and Cheeta are 2 very underrtaed albums. I especially am fond of the song "Boogie Man" on Cheeta. The song was written by Leon Russell and Chuck Blackwell. I have a version by the late Freddie King from his "Woman Across The River" album. The HUb version is low-down and funky. Freddie's version is bluesy. I dig 'em both. Great work from HUB on that track. I wish HUB had been able to tour and record a live album. Peter, you guys had some great guitarists on those 2 albums (Paul Warren, Joe Gutc, Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, Melvin 'Wah wah" Rgain, Jay Graydon) as well.

In short, I really dig those HUB albums. I favor Cheeta slightly. But that's just me biggrin

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UK Dave
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I'll balance things up Peter. I favour the HUB (1st) album slightly :)

As Mike says though, they are both great albums.

Mike
Did you have songwriting credits for the songs? I don't think I've seen who wrote the songs.



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stuart -- chicago
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I have only heard Cheeta which I like very much.  I love Where There's Smoke There's Fire.  Not really such great lyrics but Pete sells it so well.  I'm dying to hear the other one, can't wait for the transfer.

Stuart

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MARK M
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I LIKE THE SONGS THAT WERE PENNED BY MIKE URSO...DOWN THE ROAD O'PEACE FROM THE 1ST AND YOU CAN'T DO BETTER THAN THAT FROM CHEETA AND OF COURSE WITH PETERS VOCALS MAKES THE SONGS ALL THE BETTER..smile
MARK Mbiggrin

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Mike
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Great songs guys smile

I also like "Down to Acapulco". We have a small mexican restaurant in the area named "Acapulco"...a little hole in the wall type of place that serves great food. My youngest son thinks the song is about that restaurant. biggrin

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UK Dave
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I think my fave is Sail Away from the first LP. It sounds similar to the stuff on Willie Remebers.

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MARK M
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UK Dave wrote:

I think my fave is Sail Away from the first LP. It sounds similar to the stuff on Willie Remebers.


THAT IS A GOOD ONE TOO DAVE...I BELIEVE confused IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME THAT SONG WAS PENNED BY RANDY NEWMAN WHICH HAD A HIT HERE AND AMONG OTHERS THE SONG" SHORT PEOPLE"wink

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Mike
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You are both correct about Randy Newman.

The Sail Away album is one of the great albums of the 1970's in my opinion.

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The Termite Terrace Titan
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Note to Mr. Hoorelbeke;

*Somebody* at Motown musta known about HUB...dunno if they were aware of yer being with EMI/Capitol..but on the back sleeve of a Motown compilation, the tune "You're All I Need To Get By" denotes that - amonst other artistes outside of The Huitsville Empire - that it was "also recorded by HUB"..

Just thought y'ought ta know..

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UK Dave
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I think they were aware because I recall fairly recently reading on this forum that the HUB LP had been designated a Rare Earth label catalogue number. They must have counted their chickens too early as obviously HUB chose to sign for Capitol.

Did I really see this on the forum or is my mind playing tricks?

Termite Terrace Titan I enjoyed your posts. You raised some great subjects and gave some interesting and honest opinions!!! Looking forward to more.

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The Termite Terrace Titan
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Note to UK Dave:

The HUB album, was, in fact, originally destined for release on the Motown label; According to essayist Don Waller (The MOTOWN Story, 1983) the LP was slated for release under the catalogue number M6-823S1; Though Waller erroneously stated that all the members were "formerly of the group Rare Earth".

As an aside, there were a few intracompany politics on the part of the heads of The Gordy Regime (I won't go into details) that kept *many* of Motown's rock acts from showing up on Rare Earth label. Prime examples are *brilliant* albums by folk like Riot, Fresh, Michael Edward Campbell, and Puzzle (The latter of which was touted by the entertainment industry as 'Berry Gordy's answer to CBS's "Chicago"')

And though I am a Johnny Come Lately here...as I devote my time to animating (Hence the reference to Termite Terrace, Doc!) and filmmaking as my day job...I shall make every endeavour to keep ya posted with all things Motown.

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